Conservative Talk Radio vs. The Fairness Doctrine

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Nothing I can add to that, except that liberals can think for themselves, and don't need to be told what to think. The one common thread linking conservative commentators is their nastiness to anyone who dares to hold a different opinion. They really are nothing but loud mouthed and ill mannered bigots

There have been a couple of extreme right wing political parties here in Oz that grew almost overnight spouting nothing but a culture of blame. They imploded almost as quickly because their supporters had no tolerance to those who disagreed.

freedom of speech and hatred of censorship are beliefs that are central to liberalism

Really? Remember political correctness?

My issue with the fairness doctrine is that it only makes sure that the left and the right are heard. What about the communists, libertarians, socialists, constitutionalists, anarchists, etc.? Where is their "fairness"? And what is fair about the government controlling a privately owned business?

I can go on and on but as a libertarian, I find the name "Fairness" to be total bullshit.
Potty Mouth wrote: freedom of speech and hatred of censorship are beliefs that are central to liberalism. THANK you. Just another reason why Democrats, unions, the Race, socialists, the Klan, bottle throwing students that shout down speakers ect., are not liberals. In fact that is one of the MAIN reasons.
Conervatives never heckle people? Who knew?

It's kind of funny that the right wingers are now so upset over perceived slights to the First Amendment. The same folks crying over the "fairness doctrine" are the first ones calling for heads to roll over Janet Jackson's nipple, bashing the ACLU for fundraising efforts, for opposing comprehensive sex education, for banning books, even at the university level. (There was an attempt to have a book banned at Clemson University last year by conservatives).

Don't get me wrong, some people on the far left go way overboard with the idea of "political correctness", but this isn't really a classic liberal idea. The original idea was to bring some civility back to civil discourse, but as is common of people everywhere, some went overboard with it. That said, I think we have to spend more effort defending the First Amendment from the right than from the left.


Classic Liberals are libertarians. They changed the name when Social Democrats started calling themselves Liberals back in the 40's and 50's.
No we did not. I was a liberal then, I'm a liberal now and I will die a liberal. You are more talking about the media (Ann Coulter) , politicans (Maxine "I want to Nationalize Big Oil" Waters and college professors babble that only applies in the United States.
That is correct. The original liberals in the US now call themselves classic liberals or libertarians. I may have been off on the dating of the shift in the name. I can dig out my textbook covering it and correct that later if you wish.
Hell, right left, conservative socialist, it does not make any difference what you call, or who they are. If you are a narrow minded, intolerant bottle throwing bigot and make sure certain ideas can not appear in print or certain people can not speak on campus or have any public platform. YOU are not a liberal. Not anykind of liberal. The idea that there is "Modern Liberalism' is a fraud. The purpose is to hide what they really are. Philosophically authortarian and politically socialist...The KING by another name.
I beg to differ -- I have always been a liberal and I always will be. A little less emotion would be useful in debate, as well.

Note: "YOU are not a liberal. Not anykind of liberal." This was not intended towards you personally in any way!! It referred to Sean Hannity, the James Carville clone Mark Levin, news media, college professors, too numerous to mention and all those like them . But this, the idea that "Modern Liberalism' exists is a fraud. The purpose is to hide what they really are. Philosophically authortarian and politically socialist...The KING by another name, is the most important point. Emotion, (not intended) in my writing is a compliment in some ways, because most, if not all, complain of no emotion or feel to my poor writing ability. Emotion, and a felling of being there, is something that I admire in your posts.

I do think you make a dinstinction between Randi Rhoads types, who would be, in error, reffered to as liberals and Boortz types, reffered to as conservatives, that is not really there. They both sell a version of liberal and conservative that is just not accurate, for political purpose.

Thanks for clearing that up. Sorry for misunderstanding.

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“When he evades domestication, he also flees the constraints that seem to go hand in hand with marriage. He reminds wistful husbands, ensnarled in the claims of wives, children, and creditors, that the Latin root of ‘libertine’ is libertus -- a freed slave”

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