47 posts tagged “religion”
It seems as if I have a homing device to attract the religious of all stripes. I don't know what it is; perhaps it's my air of disrepute that attracts them like moths to a flame.
Recently, they hired a new guy at my place of employment, a squeaky-clean, straight arrow kind of person. I didn't have a problem with him until he started peddling his religion on me. He'd heard that I liked music and had some formal musical training, so he used that as a way to start preaching to me. Starting out innocently enough, he told me that he was the "praise leader" at his church, in charge of providing the music for their services, blah, blah, blah.
After a few moments of this, he got to his point of the entire conversation -- he wanted to know where I went to church. All the fundies do this, as they believe it's their duty to sell their religion to one and all.
Not really caring to discuss my opinion about religion with him, I simply told him that I didn't go, hoping to leave it at that.
No such luck.
He invited me to attend his church, telling me that I could be an asset to their "praise team" with my musical training.
I nearly choked and laughed myself to death all at the same time. Hell, talk about barking up the wrong tree! I'd probably burst into flames if I ever set foot into his smarmy, fundamentalist church.
Still not wanting to discuss religion in a work setting, I merely declined, citing the fact that I'm scheduled to work every Sunday.
Fortunately, at this moment, he had to get back to work, so I was spared being more blunt with him. But I'm guessing that some time soon, I'll have to tell him to fuck off in no uncertain terms.
The other night I was changing stations while listening to the radio in the car. I happened upon a station where they were talking about a survey of Americans who had been married at least once and it said that out of that groups, 76% had been married only once, 20% had been married twice, and only 5% had been married three or more times. A spokesman for the religious right group, Focus on the Family, said that the results were proof positive that most Americans still believe in and supported "biblical marriage".
Feel free to roll your eyes now.
Before I comment I on the faulty logic surrounding this conclusion, I have to point out that Christians didn't invent marriage; that marriage existed well before the Abrahamic religions did. One should also be aware that there's more than one kind of marriage mentioned in the Bible. So one would have to ask "Which type of so-called 'biblical marriage' are you talking about?"
But let us return to the original faulty assumptions made here.
First of all, the 76% of people who had been married once in their lifetimes were not necessarily currently married -- they'd just been married only once in their lives. This included widowed and divorced people, as well as the currently married.
It's quite possible that many of those not currently married may have simply chosen to live with any subsequent romantic partners and decided not to involve the government or the church in any new relationships. In other words, such people remaining legally single had nothing to do with any adherence to fundamentalist ideas about marriage. Similarly, there are no doubt many others who hadn't found another partner yet at the time of the survey, but who are open to being married again.
Secondly, out of the 25% who have been married more than once, this includes widowed people who have married again. Are these FotF fundamentalists saying that it's "unChristian" to be married more than once regardless of circumstances? I'm guessing that quite a number of religious people would beg to differ on this point.
Third, it would seem to me that many people who have a string of failed marriages and have several divorces under their belts have a misplaced belief in the institution of marriage and would do better not involving the legal system in their personal, intimate relationships in the first place. Marriage doesn't fit everyone and there's no shame in that.
Using myself as an example, I've only been legally married once, but they're definitely barking up the wrong tree if they think I'm a supporter of "biblical marriage". I'm one of those people in the third category who is better off remaining legally unencumbered, as marriage as it is currently understood is a bad fit for my non-monogamous, libertine lifestyle. Unlike those who have several marriages and divorces under their belts, I learned my lesson the first time.
Thoughts?
While idly browsing the net today, I came upon a most interesting post that expressed similar ideas to my own about the recent flurry of public moral hypocrisy we’ve seen lately on the news. What caught my interest about this post was that it came from the other side of the aisle from my own thoughts; that of the social conservative.
What follows below are my comments on this post. To better understand my comments, ead the original article first:
My response to this post:
Coming from the other side of the aisle, as an open, unrepentent libertine, I have to thoroughly agree with your thoughts on this matter. I’ve expressed similar thoughts on my own blog, albeit coming from the opposite side of the aisle.
In fact, I’ve had many traditionalists express similar thoughts to me; that they respect me because I am open and honest about who and what I am, without excuse or apology.
And I find it amusing, that as conservative Christians avoid company with the libertine, I tend to avoid association with the conservative Christian. I don’t avoid them as marriage partners, however, because I’ve decided that marriage as is currently defined is not a good fit for me, considering the way I’ve chosen to live my life.
Like you, I have no respect for the hypocrite; the one who gives lip service to conservative beliefs, while secretly engaging in more libertine behaviors. Just as you do, I highly value honesty and integrity in others.
Also like you, I believe that I am a moral person, even if my moral tenets differ in some key respects from yours.
Though I do not believe in sexual or emotional exclusivity of any kind, my behavior, which is congruent with my beliefs, is not “infidelity”. “Fidelity” is to honor the promises that one has made. Because I never promise to be exclusive to anyone, my non-monogamous behavior cannot be described as “infidelity”.
The core of my moral beliefs is the Golden Rule; to treat others as I would wish to be treated. Because I do not expect sexual fidelity from others, my own behavior is congruent with this tenet.
I believe true amorality resides not in the conservative traditionalist nor the honest libertine, but rather in the two-faced hypocrites you describe.
With all the recent outings of politicians engaged in extramarital sex, my favorite liberal news site, Alternet, has been doing a flurry of articles relating to this subject. In a recent article, Relax: Adultery Is Not That Big Of a Deal by Samara O'Shea, she explores the idea:
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I'm not sure there's an afterlife. I'd like to think that there is, as I hope I will see my parents and other loved ones again one day.
But I can't wrap my mind around the idea of there being an afterlife and some people spending an eternity in the torment of a hell, especially for such silly reasons as picking the wrong god to worship and the like. It's easier to imagine people like Hitler in hell, but I usually think of such people being consigned to oblivion instead.
Thoughts?
As my regular readers know, I often listen to radio broadcasts of those with whom I disagree, searching for ranty blogging fodder. The other night, while monitoring a Focus on the Family broadcast, they had a couple on the show who had recently lost one of their young children.
The mother went on about she railed against God for taking her child, wondering why a loving God would allow such a thing because she couldn't see a loving God being indifferent to her suffering. She couldn't what purpose, what good could come from the death of a child.
She then went on to say that she eventually realized that her child's death did serve a purpose, as it served to "glorify God". I'm not quite sure what she meant by this; perhaps by how she and her husband as Christians handled their grief served as an example to others and how others in their faith community responded.to their tragedy. I don't know, as she didn't make it all that clear.
I nearly choked when I heard her serenely assert that God allowed her child to die in order that He/She/It could be glorified. I don't know about her, but I couldn't worship a God whose ego was so big that it required the occasional sacrifice of little children for the purpose of being "glorified". Just how shaky is the Big Guy's self-esteem, anyway?
Maybe the idea of an attention whore deity allowing a child to die for the purposes of "glorification" comforted this woman, but I find the idea completely appalling and offensive.
There is no happy reason for the death of a child, but I'd rather live with that uncertainty than to think my child died to stroke the ego of God. If I were a religious person, such a thing would destroy my faith rather than make it stronger.
Thoughts?
In my book, there’s something seriously wrong with a church that would protect priests who molest children, but would immediately seek to excommunicate a priest who supports the ordination of female priests.
Nearly 5,000 Catholic priests in the U.S. have sexually abused over 12,000 Catholic children. The usual response from the Catholic heirarchy is not to excommunicate such priests, but rather their parishes or dioceses are taken away or they are simply transferred to another one. Essentially, such problems are swept under the rug, even if the priest in question has a long history of such behavior.
Father Roy Bourgeois, however, who helped celebrate the ordination mass in August 2008 for a female priest, Janice Sevre-Duszynska, was swiftly informed by the Vatican that he had 30 days to renounce his actions or face excommunication. The case is currently still up in the air, according to my search on Google.
The Catholic Church has had a 30 percent decline in priests between 1965 and 2000. Good. A church with such a twisted sense of morality deserves to wither away and die.
Many people who oppose same-sex marriage base their opposition on their belief that the purpose of marriage is to provide a legal structure in which to raise children, preferably of their own biological origin.
But I believe that issues concerning children and those concerning marriage should be viewed as separately for a couple of reasons.
One is the fact that people marry for a wide variety of reasons these days with almost no one marrying for the single purpose of raising children. People most often marry now for love and because they want to share their lives as a legally and socially recognized unit. And though some people would be happy to just live together to achieve those goals, they enter into legal marriage in order to gain the myriad legal benefits that come with making their union official.
Though most people do have children, it's almost never their sole reason for getting married in the first place. It's not as if couples who love one another but who don't want to or can't have children decide to simply remain friends because of that fact.
People who have no intention of having children, along with infertile people and people past reproductive age get married all the time, and no one is clamoring to remove their legal rights to do so -- as long as they are heterosexual, of course.
Secondly, the law no longer distinguishes between children born to married parents and those born to unmarried parents. "Illegitimacy" has not been a legal status for non-marital children since the late 60s. The law now focuses on how children relate to their parents, rather than so much on how their parents relate to each other.
Hence, this makes opposition to same sex marriage for the "marriage is for having children" reason moot and invalid.
Yet again, Alternet has giving me blogging fodder. In the article in questions, Which Is Worse These Days: Being Called Fat or Whore by Charlotte Hilton Andersen, the author explores the idea:
In an interesting switch, food and sex have completely reversed their roles in society. And all within only a matter of two generations.
My response to the article follows below:
Negative Attitudes Toward Food and Sex Come From the Same Source
We must remember that our country's culture has a strong Calvinist streak running through it, starting with the Puritans.
Calvinism values ascetic self-denial and is suspicious of anything that even suggests excess, which would include food and sex. It takes a negative view of human nature, with its doctrine of "total depravity", which takes the view every person born into the world is enslaved to the service of sin. Thus, all the basic drives that go along with being human, which would include the drive to eat and to mate, believing that such things, while necessary for the survival of the species, must be tightly controlled.In both the instances cited in this article, food and sex, what is being resisted is hedonism, which is a worldview which values pleasure for its own sake. Eating and having sex, are both naturally pleasurable activities. A sex hedonist is a libertine, while a food hedonist is a gourmand.
Naturally, both forms of hedonism offend the Calvinist mentality, as Calvinism is suspicious of anything that indicates that people are having too much of a good time, as such pursuits take away from focusing on God.
Though most people today who take a negative attitude against those who enjoy sex and/or food "too much" in their opinion, are generally not consciously aware of the Calvinist roots of their beliefs, such roots are so deeply embedded in our culture as to be sacred cows.
Thus, many of those who rail against "whores" and fat people get emotional about it and take on a moralistic tone and cast sex and food hedonists as bad people deserving of public scorn.
And this is precisely what makes such attitudes so hard to root out; they are so deeping woven into our cultural fabric that most people are unaware of the religious roots of it all.
It would be better if people realized that everyone in this life has their own burdens to bear and that no one is perfect or in a position to act as moral judges to others. Pleasure for its own sake isn't bad, but self-righteously meddling into the private lives of others is.
The guiding rule should be, "If it doesn't infringe on your right to do differently, then it's none of your business." Simple enough, I'd think.
If you or a relative is ever unfortunate enough to attend the grossly misnamed Liberty University, founded by the late Jerry Falwell, one will find there is a strictly enforced dress/appearance code for all students. The men's part of the student handbook reads, in part (bold emphasis is mine):
Philosophy of Dress Code
Liberty University trains students from all walks of life for many different professions and, most importantly, for serving as Champions for Christ. For this reason, the University has established a standard of dress for the University community, which is conducive to a Christ-like environment. Cleanliness, neatness, appropriateness, and modesty are important as guiding factors.
Standard of Dress for MEN
Hair and clothing styles related to a counterculture (as determined by the Deans' Review Committee) are not acceptable. Hair
should be cut in such a way that it will not come over the ears, collar
or eyebrows at any time...Ponytails for men are unacceptable. Facial
hair should be neatly trimmed. Earrings and/or plugs are not permitted on or off campus, nor is body piercing.

Morons. Need I say more?